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blast off

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on another episode of hero paranormal

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podcast broadcasting from the base at la

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madre mountain just south of area 51 my

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name is ryan the original overseer of

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the airwaves bringing you an epic

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episode tonight

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and uh where do i start with this person

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on today's podcast we have fellow

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podcaster and researcher jeff rennell he

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is host of the popular paranormal show

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e-talk tv

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a great podcast i've been on myself

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i have been out in the field with jeff

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as well and he's the real deal when it

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comes to researchers so i know this is

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going to be an amazing chat

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jeff is a utah resident so he is very

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uh

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aware

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that weird that

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basically is utah

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there's so much weird in utah and he is

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also intensely familiar with the uintah

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basin and the high strangeness that can

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be encountered there

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he has even stayed at space wolf

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research on occasion

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and can i i basically consider him a

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valuable asset when it comes to

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identifying and uh sometimes not

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identifying some craft

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jeff rennell welcome to the hero

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paranormal podcast

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thank you ryan and thank you very much

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for having me on i'm really excited for

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today uh i'm very honored

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man you've been uh i am too you've been

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a valuable asset in a lot of stuff a lot

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of ways one of the ways was hunting for

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petroglyphs and um this is something i

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did with you a question i have

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is for listeners

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it seems like many petroglyphs appear to

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be representing

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advanced flying craft reptilian gray and

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other worldly entities what do you

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attribute these petroglyphs to

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i to

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people trying to tell a story back in

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their time and what they saw and what

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they experienced

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and that's where i find it very

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understand this story that they're

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trying to tell with these petroglyphs

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and and what they're actually showing us

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and i find it very fascinating i can't

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say i'm an expert on reading uh

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petroglyphs and everything but i am uh

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very eager and willing to learn more

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about it um

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one person that had brought something up

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to me and i i find it very valuable is

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when you look at petroglyphs it's the

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kind of look at them as

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cartoon art telling a story where it

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could actually almost repeat itself

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it's trying to make sense of what's

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written there and um

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there's really some amazing stuff and

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some amazing pictures and you have to

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what were they representing here what

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really amazing stuff especially right

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uh and so i i just find it fascinating

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yeah there is a lot going on and

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especially you know like you mentioned

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in nevada in utah you've been out by

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places i hope you take me someday

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because i haven't been to all of them

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what are your thoughts about the story

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of the tall whites or the general idea

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aliens live somewhere in and around

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well you know i'm really fascinated by

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the charles hall story especially

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because i was born and raised in las

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which is just like four or five years

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ago when i uh was introduced to brad

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olson and we quickly became good friends

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and i started doing research fun stuff

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and then i came across charles hall

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and found out it was in my own backyard

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and i was absolutely blown away

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by what he was talking about and i had a

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huge interest into it um i was already

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trying to investigate area at 51 as much

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as possible um like i said i was born

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and raised in las vegas so

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to observe the sky and see what was

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going on out there and see if i could

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start to either add things up or

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subtract certain things that charles

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hall was talking about

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and i got to say out there it's really

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there's been nothing that i can say

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there's a lot of things that make me go

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i do believe there's something out there

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and something really weird going on out

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which is basically area 54.

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that is very strange in itself because

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it has supposedly been a gunning bombery

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range since i believe 1954

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and you can look at it today um there's

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really no bombing marks at all

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on all of that land there are certain

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marks that look like it if you're just

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glazing over it but when you zoom into

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it they're not bombing marks i'm not

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sure what they are but they're

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definitely not bombing marks and so

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there's hardly there's no bombing marks

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uh the nuke area and there's craters

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galore there's hundreds of craters

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gunnery range and there's no bombing

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marks on the ground that's really weird

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there's a lot of different weird shape

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uh triangles on the ground that kind of

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line up and point in a certain direction

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ground and that seems to have been

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of david and it was easily

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for me it was easy to find because it

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was right across the mountains on our

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camping site and now i go to look for it

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and i cannot find the star of david but

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couple years ago and still have that

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picture uh in my files

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so it is a very weird area

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i'm definitely actively still

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researching that me and eric at

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awakening man we were just there a few

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months ago um and we were out there for

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there's a ufo base there

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but there's definitely weird things that

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the base being there we had crafts

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so it was dark out in our area and we'd

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had craft flying over us with absolutely

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no lights on at all and it took a while

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to actually spot those

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one person telling us that they're using

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planes out there which i'm not saying

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that that's what what i saw

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but it was definitely very peculiar

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because they flew over with no lights on

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of on the weirdness because that is

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are the series of claims and

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documents involving very real people

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uh implying that a craft is housed

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have we reverse engineered kraft and are

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we storing the original somewhere or

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uh it sounds to me that we've actually

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had crafts since maybe even as early as

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i do believe very much in bob lazar's

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story he is actually somebody that i

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knew of before his story came out um

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one of my best friends growing up

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out there in las vegas his mother knew

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balbizar so i would be at his house

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of his house when he would come over

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um and we'd get kicked outside which

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wasn't a big deal because he had the

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most amazing corvette there with a

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computer system that you could actually

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what you wanted the police radar to see

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excuse me nice um

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excuse when bob lazar's story came out

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knew who he was and everything so i was

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very into that story uh i started uh i

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mean that was truly probably the very

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first ufo stuff i started to research

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because that was back when i was 18 19

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mundane life but i've always been very

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into bob's story ever since that time

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the stories that are coming out are

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actually backing bob lazar stories

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uh which i find very fascinating

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yes these are things that the element

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115 is one that you know who really

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expected that to come to fruition so

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many years later

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um through actual scientific study and

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peer-reviewed

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uh what are your thoughts that kind of

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going along that

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about the possibility and this has

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become popularized a lot since the show

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the matrix and

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a lot since since silicon valley

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uh ceos have hired professionals to try

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to figure out if we are in some ways

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living in some kind of matrix for their

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software and other reasons

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my question is have you ever seen

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anything of that holographic sort that

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tells you we possibly might be living in

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my very first love is spirituality and

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so that's what i studied for years until

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i met brad and then i took a hard left

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to ufos um and so

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understanding spirituality um

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i believe anything is

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plausible um and so i i we can be just a

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computer program i i think it's very

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but when you're also studying

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spirituality you start to study into

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sacred geometry

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uh

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me personally i can see when you study

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the flower of life there's a certain

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point on that flower of life

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when then all of a sudden the holograph

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starts and it goes within and without

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infinity

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and so

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i think spiritually the way

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the cot how do i want to put it

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the creative energy all that of all that

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is the way that it is construction

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constructed with the sacred geometry

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patterns

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creates a hologram and so i do believe

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we are truly living within a hologram

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but is it

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creation or is it more of a computer

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program that i do not know

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uh and either way i wouldn't be

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depressed because i'm having a great

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time in life and i find it very

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fascinating yeah man right either way

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it's fine with me i'm having a great

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i am with you a hundred percent

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and um what i mean is like yeah if you

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are

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mesmerized and you see the wonders in

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life which i think that these studying

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these things kind of like researching

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this sort of

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unfolds or

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brings you into an area where uh

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you're able to see things in a different

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light and life is very interesting

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concerning

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the interesting take on a lot of these

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um craft that are now more mainstream

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the sightings are a lot more mainstream

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a lot of folks uh like myself attribute

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a great deal of these sightings

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to um a more dimensional

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entity in a basic explanation yet

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you know i've seen

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unidentified drop you know that metallic

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metallic molten slag from behind my home

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in duchesne at the time and that seems

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pretty darn real and solid when you see

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it

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um

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and

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what i'm so fascinated about is

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is it real is it a hard substance is it

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just my imagination is it my imagination

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making it real

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you know when you start to delve into

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quantum mechanics and quantum physics it

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just gets crazy you know that's where

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albert einstein was saying weird wacky

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stuff about science is when it comes to

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quantum mechanics

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and so

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that's where that's what really drives

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me is is what is this what is going on

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you know uh you you're aware that i just

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recently filmed some stuff at your place

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that's facebook research

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and i have that triangle shaped craft in

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the video and

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there's this orb that appears for four

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minutes and it gets bigger and it gets

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smaller

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and i'm not sure what's going on there

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and i just find it fascinating is that

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ship creating it is it

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a a whole nother being all together

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these are so many questions that we have

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you know to answer and i think the more

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we find out some of these answers the

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more questions it's going to bring out

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for sure

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so

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you know i don't know how to answer that

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yet and maybe i guess i'm glad i don't

370
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because it means that i get to research

371
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even more because this is the fun part

372
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about it trying to understand what is

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this

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and can i actually make communication

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with

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what is showing in front of me you know

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can we make communication can we create

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some type of dialogue with these beings

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that would be

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fascinating myself i mean one of the

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reasons i'm in this journey is i want to

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understand more

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of my spirituality and for me to

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understand more of my spirituality i

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think understanding

386
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what that is and what

387
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they're part of

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helps me understand my spirituality even

389
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more does that make sense

390
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for sure

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and i think it's it's important that's a

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great explanation um

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you know

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everything is moving so fast in our time

395
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too right now like where

396
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you know there's

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in the past it seemed like disclosure

398
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was far-fetched

399
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now at least at in a general sense

400
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where do you think it's at right now

401
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some are claiming soft disclosure has

402
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already happened do you have thoughts on

403
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that

404
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they're already here and they've been

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here

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i think you're living in the shell we

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don't need the government to come out

408
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and tell tell us they're here we're

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smart enough to make our own decisions

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and the evidence shows that they have

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they're not only here now but they've

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been here

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probably before we are and i believe uh

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from what

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some of the ancient texts talk about i

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do believe that they genetically

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modified us

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and so i believe we're part of their

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creation and that's probably why

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they don't bug us too much they probably

421
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are here helping us in a lot of ways

422
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that we don't realize um so i and maybe

423
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we're like their little ant farm and

424
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they're just taking care of us and

425
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seeing what happens

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and i talk about this uh i've talked

427
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about this before i mean if i was

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creating

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if i had that type of technology to be

430
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able to transform a a planet and bring

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in

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a whole nother species

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if you were an intelligent uh

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race you would leave that species be i

435
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would think

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because

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you know i i understand that our

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intelligence can only go so far by our

439
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own experience so if you had another

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race on a planet

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and it was just growing by itself

442
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that race i believe to create ideas and

443
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see things that maybe i wouldn't have

444
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never saw and so i think it would be

445
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beneficial for my race to sit back and

446
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watch the other planet and that new race

447
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form and and understand things and see

448
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things in creation that maybe i didn't

449
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see

450
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um so to me i think if i was controlling

451
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another planet again i would probably

452
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let it be for a long time and try to

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steal their ideas maybe in a sense um

454
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but

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i i find it fascinating i mean it's just

456
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amazing

457
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what is out there and what

458
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i mean it's infinity

459
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yes and you know just the idea

460
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that some of these claims and documents

461
00:19:31,270 --> 00:19:29,840
and very real people are implying that

462
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some of these things are happening and

463
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disclosure's already happening

464
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you know it's gone mainstream a lot of

465
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a lot of things are hit in the fan a lot

466
00:19:45,350 --> 00:19:42,400
of the conspiracies are becoming real

467
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uh places that were previously

468
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acknowledged as being hoaxes such as

469
00:19:52,630 --> 00:19:49,520
area 51

470
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have now been totally i guess

471
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uh completely

472
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refreshingly uh proven real and

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the

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genre of

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ufos now it's uaps

476
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whatever you want to call it

477
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it has become a lot larger than it used

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00:20:17,510 --> 00:20:14,559
to be it is it is it just a fad or is

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this like people really dealing with

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what i believe are the nuts and bolts of

481
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our reality like spiritually really

482
00:20:27,669 --> 00:20:24,880
yeah i think it goes to that i think it

483
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goes back to our own spirituality

484
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um we are part of this whole creation

485
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this all the creative all that is

486
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we're part of everything and so

487
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when it comes to spirituality we always

488
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talk about us evolving okay we're

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evolving species

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well if we're evolving and we're part of

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the all that is we're part of all of

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nature

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all of creation is expanding evolving

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and so

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i you know i think that's what is really

496
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happening in here and as it is happening

497
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we're all becoming more open to this and

498
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it's just part of our evolution um we

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can no longer be in that old energy that

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00:21:13,990 --> 00:21:11,919
we you know me and you definitely grew

501
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up in i mean this is a whole new time

502
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right now

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um so i i do believe we're just all

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evolving in it and it's part of the

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earth

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it's part of what's going on in our

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galaxies in the uh and space and

508
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everything we're all evolving at one

509
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time and so i do believe

510
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as the human race we're starting to open

511
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up and evolve and in that same process

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that's allowing us to open up our

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imagination because

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you know i'm sure you're aware how

515
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powerful the brain is if we don't

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understand anything we're going to try

517
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to make sense of it in the most safe way

518
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possible

519
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so

520
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you know 20 years ago 30 years ago

521
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people are pro might have seen things in

522
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the sky but are just you know trying to

523
00:22:01,270 --> 00:21:59,760
make their own normal sense of it and

524
00:22:03,110 --> 00:22:01,280
they're playing it off and going no it

525
00:22:05,510 --> 00:22:03,120
wasn't a ufo it was just the weather

526
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balloon or whatever the government tells

527
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us

528
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um

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i think as we're evolving now when we're

530
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opening up our own mind now it's

531
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becoming more acceptable to see what is

532
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actually up in the sky what might be in

533
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some paranormal room or something to

534
00:22:25,510 --> 00:22:23,200
that extent i think we are becoming more

535
00:22:28,149 --> 00:22:25,520
open and as we become more open

536
00:22:29,990 --> 00:22:28,159
our our walls come down a little bit and

537
00:22:32,390 --> 00:22:30,000
so we can actually see more because

538
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we're not as scared does that make sense

539
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oh yeah

540
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it is like the blinders on a horse you

541
00:22:40,870 --> 00:22:38,799
know like um

542
00:22:43,750 --> 00:22:40,880
there's a reason they make those and

543
00:22:46,310 --> 00:22:43,760
there's a reason why we

544
00:22:48,310 --> 00:22:46,320
live in a reality that seems to be

545
00:22:50,310 --> 00:22:48,320
controlled in some way shape or form

546
00:22:52,630 --> 00:22:50,320
where they want you to look a certain

547
00:22:54,230 --> 00:22:52,640
a certain you know direction

548
00:22:55,590 --> 00:22:54,240
you know move along sir there's nothing

549
00:22:58,789 --> 00:22:55,600
to see here

550
00:23:01,750 --> 00:22:58,799
and um there's a there's a reason why a

551
00:23:04,789 --> 00:23:01,760
lot of this quote-unquote

552
00:23:07,270 --> 00:23:04,799
magic in the skies that anybody can look

553
00:23:09,110 --> 00:23:07,280
at that's why i really you know just to

554
00:23:09,830 --> 00:23:09,120
get a little tangential i really like

555
00:23:12,549 --> 00:23:09,840
that

556
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new netflix show don't look up

557
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because there's a lot of people that

558
00:23:17,270 --> 00:23:15,600
just don't look up like just in a

559
00:23:19,430 --> 00:23:17,280
general sense not talking about like a

560
00:23:22,149 --> 00:23:19,440
comet coming to blow up the earth but in

561
00:23:24,470 --> 00:23:22,159
a general sense a lot of folks just do

562
00:23:26,310 --> 00:23:24,480
not look up they can

563
00:23:28,789 --> 00:23:26,320
hear something overhead and they still

564
00:23:31,110 --> 00:23:28,799
just don't even care they go about their

565
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mundane lives and they don't realize

566
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that there is an entire

567
00:23:39,029 --> 00:23:35,120
um

568
00:23:42,470 --> 00:23:39,039
area that is above them and a lot taking

569
00:23:46,710 --> 00:23:45,350
yeah yeah and you know it's funny

570
00:23:48,870 --> 00:23:46,720
now that

571
00:23:50,789 --> 00:23:48,880
i'm in the ufo world

572
00:23:53,510 --> 00:23:50,799
i can't stop looking up i mean there's

573
00:23:55,830 --> 00:23:53,520
just one little noise i'm looking up i

574
00:23:57,190 --> 00:23:55,840
even one of my co-workers he's like man

575
00:23:59,430 --> 00:23:57,200
jeff if you really take this stuff

576
00:24:00,630 --> 00:23:59,440
serious don't you it's like you just

577
00:24:02,470 --> 00:24:00,640
don't want to miss anything you don't

578
00:24:05,029 --> 00:24:02,480
know when it's going to be there you

579
00:24:06,870 --> 00:24:05,039
know uh when me and eric were at your

580
00:24:09,190 --> 00:24:06,880
property and we're traveling back to my

581
00:24:11,830 --> 00:24:09,200
house we're coming just getting ready to

582
00:24:14,470 --> 00:24:11,840
go into the provo canyon there and

583
00:24:16,549 --> 00:24:14,480
eric's always recording he snapped a

584
00:24:18,149 --> 00:24:16,559
shot early in the morning of a ufo right

585
00:24:20,710 --> 00:24:18,159
in between all the mountains there in

586
00:24:23,269 --> 00:24:20,720
the in the valley there i mean just a

587
00:24:25,350 --> 00:24:23,279
beautiful picture and i was right there

588
00:24:27,029 --> 00:24:25,360
right behind him traveling and i never

589
00:24:29,110 --> 00:24:27,039
saw it one bit so

590
00:24:31,110 --> 00:24:29,120
i mean it's always there we just we need

591
00:24:31,990 --> 00:24:31,120
to be more aware and you'll start to see

592
00:24:34,310 --> 00:24:32,000
them and

593
00:24:36,549 --> 00:24:34,320
i from what it seems like once you see

594
00:24:37,350 --> 00:24:36,559
one it opens you up to see them all or

595
00:24:39,750 --> 00:24:37,360
you know

596
00:24:41,590 --> 00:24:39,760
quite a bit more uh it's just amazing

597
00:24:44,870 --> 00:24:41,600
how it works but yeah i think once we

598
00:24:47,110 --> 00:24:44,880
open up it allows the floodgates to open

599
00:24:50,230 --> 00:24:47,120
so true what you said about eric and yes

600
00:24:52,230 --> 00:24:50,240
about the floodgates opening uh that is

601
00:24:54,549 --> 00:24:52,240
something that you know is no longer

602
00:24:56,070 --> 00:24:54,559
argued over people science in general

603
00:24:58,830 --> 00:24:56,080
has

604
00:25:01,909 --> 00:24:58,840
you know um

605
00:25:05,510 --> 00:25:01,919
generally proven that that is very real

606
00:25:09,510 --> 00:25:05,520
people that are seeing these craft

607
00:25:11,269 --> 00:25:09,520
see them more often and with more

608
00:25:13,350 --> 00:25:11,279
proximity

609
00:25:15,029 --> 00:25:13,360
and

610
00:25:17,830 --> 00:25:15,039
just more often

611
00:25:19,909 --> 00:25:17,840
it is one of those strange things that

612
00:25:22,630 --> 00:25:19,919
we're somehow storing this same

613
00:25:25,430 --> 00:25:22,640
wavelength of vibration

614
00:25:28,310 --> 00:25:25,440
somewhere and therefore when these

615
00:25:30,549 --> 00:25:28,320
unidentifieds are

616
00:25:33,830 --> 00:25:30,559
behind someone's home or in front of

617
00:25:34,710 --> 00:25:33,840
someone's home or in close proximity

618
00:25:38,070 --> 00:25:34,720
they

619
00:25:40,549 --> 00:25:38,080
show up so there's a little bit of that

620
00:25:43,990 --> 00:25:40,559
residual precognitive intelligence that

621
00:25:47,190 --> 00:25:44,000
rubs off on the observer from the

622
00:25:49,350 --> 00:25:47,200
display which is pretty wild because

623
00:25:51,190 --> 00:25:49,360
you know up to now consciousness studies

624
00:25:54,950 --> 00:25:51,200
have mainly

625
00:25:57,909 --> 00:25:54,960
kind of directed a lot of a lot of

626
00:26:00,470 --> 00:25:57,919
effort into the fact that the display is

627
00:26:02,549 --> 00:26:00,480
replicating you know what the observer

628
00:26:04,870 --> 00:26:02,559
wants which is what i've always believed

629
00:26:06,710 --> 00:26:04,880
so this is this is interesting stuff

630
00:26:09,269 --> 00:26:06,720
going on lately what are your thoughts

631
00:26:14,230 --> 00:26:11,909
i i think it is and again i i would go

632
00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:14,240
to we're opening up and the more we're

633
00:26:19,110 --> 00:26:16,960
opening up the more we're going to see

634
00:26:21,269 --> 00:26:19,120
the strangeness going on in the world i

635
00:26:23,350 --> 00:26:21,279
mean some of the stories i hear

636
00:26:24,549 --> 00:26:23,360
i mean it's not just ufo crafts up in

637
00:26:26,630 --> 00:26:24,559
the sky

638
00:26:28,710 --> 00:26:26,640
there's ufo crafts that are inside

639
00:26:30,789 --> 00:26:28,720
people's homes that are small as can be

640
00:26:33,350 --> 00:26:30,799
that i've heard stories about that are

641
00:26:35,909 --> 00:26:33,360
just amazing and so it's just

642
00:26:38,870 --> 00:26:35,919
understanding our reality and

643
00:26:40,789 --> 00:26:38,880
the dimensions within our reality and

644
00:26:42,950 --> 00:26:40,799
that goes up you know back to where your

645
00:26:44,789 --> 00:26:42,960
property is and the different uh you

646
00:26:46,549 --> 00:26:44,799
know the portals that could be opening

647
00:26:49,269 --> 00:26:46,559
up there and the difference in the

648
00:26:50,710 --> 00:26:49,279
realities coming through those portals

649
00:26:53,350 --> 00:26:50,720
um this

650
00:26:57,190 --> 00:26:53,360
this world again back back to uh quantum

651
00:26:58,789 --> 00:26:57,200
physics is such a crazy reality

652
00:27:00,710 --> 00:26:58,799
that we're living right on top of

653
00:27:02,230 --> 00:27:00,720
different dimensions

654
00:27:04,549 --> 00:27:02,240
at this moment

655
00:27:07,909 --> 00:27:04,559
and so it's just changing our vibration

656
00:27:11,430 --> 00:27:07,919
to see the vibration that's around us

657
00:27:12,710 --> 00:27:11,440
um and you know so it is it's very

658
00:27:16,630 --> 00:27:12,720
fascinating

659
00:27:20,710 --> 00:27:18,389
how do i want to put it i mean it

660
00:27:22,870 --> 00:27:20,720
excites me so much to think about this

661
00:27:26,870 --> 00:27:22,880
type of stuff and where we could

662
00:27:29,750 --> 00:27:26,880
actually be in another 10 15 20 years if

663
00:27:32,470 --> 00:27:29,760
we keep opening up this way and if we

664
00:27:35,590 --> 00:27:32,480
make that final connection you know it

665
00:27:36,789 --> 00:27:35,600
where could our lives go in our lifetime

666
00:27:38,389 --> 00:27:36,799
you know

667
00:27:39,350 --> 00:27:38,399
we could be traveling the stars who

668
00:27:41,990 --> 00:27:39,360
knows

669
00:27:44,149 --> 00:27:42,000
um but you know just opening up to this

670
00:27:46,870 --> 00:27:44,159
reality is just amazing to me

671
00:27:49,110 --> 00:27:46,880
um and it i just get excited about it

672
00:27:51,510 --> 00:27:49,120
every single day when i think about the

673
00:27:53,750 --> 00:27:51,520
chance to be able to break down walls

674
00:27:55,669 --> 00:27:53,760
and the dimensions and and see different

675
00:27:57,990 --> 00:27:55,679
things uh and just

676
00:27:59,909 --> 00:27:58,000
you know try to understand it and how it

677
00:28:01,510 --> 00:27:59,919
fits in with me and how i fit in with

678
00:28:08,070 --> 00:28:01,520
that

679
00:28:09,750 --> 00:28:08,080
this has a tendency of like raising all

680
00:28:11,669 --> 00:28:09,760
ships in the room if people can

681
00:28:14,230 --> 00:28:11,679
cognitively

682
00:28:15,830 --> 00:28:14,240
discuss this research and theories and

683
00:28:17,110 --> 00:28:15,840
hypothesis

684
00:28:19,990 --> 00:28:17,120
in a

685
00:28:23,110 --> 00:28:20,000
somewhat general way this is in my

686
00:28:25,750 --> 00:28:23,120
opinion the biggest question of mankind

687
00:28:28,549 --> 00:28:25,760
we're dealing with

688
00:28:31,110 --> 00:28:28,559
something that interacts with a

689
00:28:33,590 --> 00:28:31,120
biological entity which is ourselves as

690
00:28:37,190 --> 00:28:33,600
an observer we think

691
00:28:38,549 --> 00:28:37,200
and it is able to

692
00:28:41,990 --> 00:28:38,559
dimensionally

693
00:28:46,149 --> 00:28:42,000
manipulate space and time

694
00:28:49,029 --> 00:28:46,159
it appears to be a technology from our

695
00:28:50,870 --> 00:28:49,039
very humble existence because it

696
00:28:54,070 --> 00:28:50,880
also

697
00:28:56,470 --> 00:28:54,080
is endowed with uh magical traits that

698
00:29:00,549 --> 00:28:56,480
we cannot replicate from a technological

699
00:29:02,789 --> 00:29:00,559
basis so you know it is in all intents

700
00:29:04,789 --> 00:29:02,799
and purposes something in the sky that

701
00:29:07,350 --> 00:29:04,799
previously cultures most likely

702
00:29:09,590 --> 00:29:07,360
identified as gods with a little g

703
00:29:11,750 --> 00:29:09,600
you know whether that be greek mythology

704
00:29:13,590 --> 00:29:11,760
you know or

705
00:29:15,350 --> 00:29:13,600
many other cultures have talked about

706
00:29:17,990 --> 00:29:15,360
the star people

707
00:29:20,310 --> 00:29:18,000
both tribal and otherwise and i agree if

708
00:29:22,149 --> 00:29:20,320
there's this contact are we are we able

709
00:29:23,909 --> 00:29:22,159
to rise to a level where we're

710
00:29:27,590 --> 00:29:23,919
open-minded enough

711
00:29:30,549 --> 00:29:27,600
to engage with something that can quite

712
00:29:33,029 --> 00:29:30,559
literally fold space and time

713
00:29:35,990 --> 00:29:33,039
and you know i hate to get biblical

714
00:29:37,750 --> 00:29:36,000
because i am not a religious guy but

715
00:29:40,870 --> 00:29:37,760
you know you read

716
00:29:42,070 --> 00:29:40,880
in the bible and they discuss these

717
00:29:44,389 --> 00:29:42,080
elohim

718
00:29:46,870 --> 00:29:44,399
these gods with a little g in fact you

719
00:29:48,710 --> 00:29:46,880
really dissect the word and identify the

720
00:29:50,630 --> 00:29:48,720
word god

721
00:29:53,029 --> 00:29:50,640
and it's a group effort there's a

722
00:29:55,590 --> 00:29:53,039
multitude and a hierarchy of these

723
00:29:56,870 --> 00:29:55,600
things that are working together

724
00:29:59,269 --> 00:29:56,880
and

725
00:30:02,710 --> 00:29:59,279
this is um

726
00:30:03,590 --> 00:30:02,720
not at least from the outside looking in

727
00:30:08,070 --> 00:30:03,600
whether

728
00:30:10,389 --> 00:30:08,080
this is not there's a hierarchy to this

729
00:30:11,830 --> 00:30:10,399
you know even if you want to pin it down

730
00:30:13,510 --> 00:30:11,840
to like oh these are just a bunch of

731
00:30:15,269 --> 00:30:13,520
angels or these are just a bunch of

732
00:30:17,350 --> 00:30:15,279
demons there's hierarchies on both sides

733
00:30:19,269 --> 00:30:17,360
you know as above so below

734
00:30:20,870 --> 00:30:19,279
but these

735
00:30:23,990 --> 00:30:20,880
in my opinion

736
00:30:25,830 --> 00:30:24,000
you know we do not know what previous

737
00:30:28,470 --> 00:30:25,840
cultures were discussing and talking

738
00:30:31,190 --> 00:30:28,480
about these may not be unscripted

739
00:30:35,190 --> 00:30:31,200
theories these could be the same things

740
00:30:40,870 --> 00:30:37,990
i think very much they are uh

741
00:30:44,470 --> 00:30:40,880
you know and and i think we can see that

742
00:30:46,789 --> 00:30:44,480
it seems like there was a teacher or

743
00:30:48,950 --> 00:30:46,799
one group creating a lot of these

744
00:30:52,389 --> 00:30:48,960
pyramids around the world

745
00:30:53,669 --> 00:30:52,399
and so i i just by what i see i think

746
00:30:55,590 --> 00:30:53,679
there was

747
00:30:57,509 --> 00:30:55,600
a main group that came to this planet

748
00:31:00,070 --> 00:30:57,519
and started you know whether they

749
00:31:03,190 --> 00:31:00,080
genetically modified us or whatever but

750
00:31:05,669 --> 00:31:03,200
it seems to be there was one teacher

751
00:31:07,909 --> 00:31:05,679
are at least one main influence for

752
00:31:10,149 --> 00:31:07,919
quite a while in our history

753
00:31:11,909 --> 00:31:10,159
that created

754
00:31:15,590 --> 00:31:11,919
our backdrop of our history with the

755
00:31:17,669 --> 00:31:15,600
temples and and the way we

756
00:31:19,590 --> 00:31:17,679
run our civilizations because a lot of

757
00:31:21,350 --> 00:31:19,600
it comes through the sumerians and what

758
00:31:23,509 --> 00:31:21,360
they did back then

759
00:31:26,149 --> 00:31:23,519
and so i think they have a lot of

760
00:31:27,830 --> 00:31:26,159
influence on us uh one thing i really

761
00:31:30,149 --> 00:31:27,840
want to hit on that i find fascinating

762
00:31:31,909 --> 00:31:30,159
that you brought up there is

763
00:31:33,029 --> 00:31:31,919
the connection that they have with us

764
00:31:34,470 --> 00:31:33,039
somehow

765
00:31:35,590 --> 00:31:34,480
how

766
00:31:43,750 --> 00:31:35,600
they

767
00:31:46,389 --> 00:31:43,760
connected with us or with certain people

768
00:31:48,789 --> 00:31:46,399
um you know we've discussed before

769
00:31:50,230 --> 00:31:48,799
uh about uh out there at the sherman

770
00:31:52,950 --> 00:31:50,240
ranch and how

771
00:31:55,590 --> 00:31:52,960
you know just the snap of his vertebrae

772
00:31:57,269 --> 00:31:55,600
made that attention you know that craft

773
00:31:58,470 --> 00:31:57,279
know exactly where he's at and turn

774
00:31:59,990 --> 00:31:58,480
right to him

775
00:32:01,430 --> 00:32:00,000
there's people out there i'm getting

776
00:32:02,710 --> 00:32:01,440
ready to interview with this guy this

777
00:32:04,789 --> 00:32:02,720
next tuesday

778
00:32:07,269 --> 00:32:04,799
uh brent uh boatman

779
00:32:09,350 --> 00:32:07,279
and he has a special ability to be able

780
00:32:11,029 --> 00:32:09,360
to call him in the sky and i was just

781
00:32:12,710 --> 00:32:11,039
watching a video on him and he's calling

782
00:32:14,630 --> 00:32:12,720
him and they're flashing

783
00:32:15,909 --> 00:32:14,640
and it's like they know what's going on

784
00:32:17,029 --> 00:32:15,919
and then you look at some of these

785
00:32:19,509 --> 00:32:17,039
people

786
00:32:21,509 --> 00:32:19,519
uh that do dealings with them in the

787
00:32:23,029 --> 00:32:21,519
government you know one i would say

788
00:32:25,750 --> 00:32:23,039
clifford stone

789
00:32:27,669 --> 00:32:25,760
you look back at his life and he has

790
00:32:30,389 --> 00:32:27,679
some weird connection with

791
00:32:32,789 --> 00:32:30,399
ufos when he was a kid

792
00:32:35,029 --> 00:32:32,799
and they seemed to have known that and

793
00:32:35,990 --> 00:32:35,039
brought him into the service so he could

794
00:32:38,230 --> 00:32:36,000
deal

795
00:32:40,710 --> 00:32:38,240
and and be uh

796
00:32:42,310 --> 00:32:40,720
what's up uh

797
00:32:43,909 --> 00:32:42,320
i can't think of what they called him

798
00:32:46,389 --> 00:32:43,919
and stuff but he used telepathy to

799
00:32:48,149 --> 00:32:46,399
communicate with the alien beings

800
00:32:50,070 --> 00:32:48,159
because he had some weird connection

801
00:32:52,310 --> 00:32:50,080
with these beings ever since he was a

802
00:32:54,470 --> 00:32:52,320
kid and his book is very very

803
00:32:56,149 --> 00:32:54,480
fascinating he's a fascinating character

804
00:32:58,630 --> 00:32:56,159
i think one of my favorites in the in

805
00:33:00,230 --> 00:32:58,640
the soul industry um but i just find it

806
00:33:01,509 --> 00:33:00,240
fascinating how

807
00:33:03,830 --> 00:33:01,519
does some of these people have this

808
00:33:04,630 --> 00:33:03,840
connection or and do we all

809
00:33:05,990 --> 00:33:04,640
and

810
00:33:08,230 --> 00:33:06,000
these people that do have these

811
00:33:10,630 --> 00:33:08,240
connections are they hybrids

812
00:33:13,990 --> 00:33:10,640
you know what is going on here

813
00:33:17,350 --> 00:33:14,000
i literally i literally agree that it is

814
00:33:20,230 --> 00:33:17,360
possibly the most unscripted untold and

815
00:33:22,630 --> 00:33:20,240
world's greatest story continuing

816
00:33:25,509 --> 00:33:22,640
sort of a biblical drama where there is

817
00:33:28,710 --> 00:33:25,519
this interaction of entities in a basic

818
00:33:30,310 --> 00:33:28,720
explanation that are unidentified

819
00:33:33,430 --> 00:33:30,320
in the skies

820
00:33:34,870 --> 00:33:33,440
interacting with people on the ground

821
00:33:36,230 --> 00:33:34,880
and dealing

822
00:33:38,789 --> 00:33:36,240
with

823
00:33:41,830 --> 00:33:38,799
the ability in a general sense of those

824
00:33:43,990 --> 00:33:41,840
who govern and the disclosure of their

825
00:33:48,070 --> 00:33:44,000
knowledge of this and what it means in a

826
00:33:54,710 --> 00:33:52,549
it it's a big question and it requires a

827
00:33:56,630 --> 00:33:54,720
minimum of an open mind when your

828
00:33:59,350 --> 00:33:56,640
thoughts are going possibly at the level

829
00:34:01,750 --> 00:33:59,360
of are we living in some kind of matrix

830
00:34:03,350 --> 00:34:01,760
where these craft are possibly popping

831
00:34:06,710 --> 00:34:03,360
in and out

832
00:34:07,669 --> 00:34:06,720
solidly at least when you see them doing

833
00:34:10,550 --> 00:34:07,679
something

834
00:34:12,069 --> 00:34:10,560
and that is the question what are they

835
00:34:14,629 --> 00:34:12,079
doing because

836
00:34:16,710 --> 00:34:14,639
their ability to do it far

837
00:34:19,270 --> 00:34:16,720
outweighs our ability to do anything

838
00:34:20,950 --> 00:34:19,280
remotely capable of that yet they have

839
00:34:22,550 --> 00:34:20,960
absolutely no

840
00:34:24,389 --> 00:34:22,560
for for lack of a better word they have

841
00:34:26,869 --> 00:34:24,399
like um

842
00:34:29,750 --> 00:34:26,879
from a fly fishing sense i'm stupid just

843
00:34:32,790 --> 00:34:29,760
silly fly fisherman and

844
00:34:35,510 --> 00:34:32,800
it the reality is it's kind of like fish

845
00:34:38,550 --> 00:34:35,520
gather in certain places on rivers

846
00:34:41,270 --> 00:34:38,560
and it seems it seems like some of these

847
00:34:42,470 --> 00:34:41,280
geographic geological locations we're

848
00:34:44,629 --> 00:34:42,480
dealing with

849
00:34:46,629 --> 00:34:44,639
are in a general sense places where

850
00:34:49,829 --> 00:34:46,639
these craft have

851
00:34:52,550 --> 00:34:49,839
soft spots where they have uh they're

852
00:34:54,950 --> 00:34:52,560
more comfortable for a lack of a better

853
00:34:55,909 --> 00:34:54,960
word doing whatever it is they're doing

854
00:34:58,390 --> 00:34:55,919
and

855
00:35:01,109 --> 00:34:58,400
yeah man when you see them we're humbled

856
00:35:03,109 --> 00:35:01,119
i'm humbled anyway what what do you

857
00:35:05,589 --> 00:35:03,119
think they are doing are they popping in

858
00:35:09,109 --> 00:35:05,599
and out i mean are we just a laboratory

859
00:35:16,710 --> 00:35:09,990
i

860
00:35:18,470 --> 00:35:16,720
what we do how we have our zoos and

861
00:35:21,190 --> 00:35:18,480
everything like that

862
00:35:22,710 --> 00:35:21,200
yeah i would have to go there and are

863
00:35:24,870 --> 00:35:22,720
they coming

864
00:35:26,710 --> 00:35:24,880
from you know i'm sure they're coming

865
00:35:29,109 --> 00:35:26,720
from other galaxies and other places

866
00:35:32,230 --> 00:35:29,119
like that but they can very well as you

867
00:35:34,150 --> 00:35:32,240
know be inside the earth you know um

868
00:35:35,750 --> 00:35:34,160
i've been very privileged throughout my

869
00:35:37,589 --> 00:35:35,760
life to experience a lot of different

870
00:35:40,230 --> 00:35:37,599
things one of them was when i was a kid

871
00:35:42,390 --> 00:35:40,240
my parents uh had chairs in a gold mine

872
00:35:44,470 --> 00:35:42,400
right out there right at mountain pass

873
00:35:45,990 --> 00:35:44,480
there at the border of uh nevada and

874
00:35:48,790 --> 00:35:46,000
california

875
00:35:50,470 --> 00:35:48,800
and so i've been inside that mountain

876
00:35:52,470 --> 00:35:50,480
and inside the gold mine when i was a

877
00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:52,480
kid hiking around and let me tell you

878
00:35:57,910 --> 00:35:55,680
i've been in some some caverns inside

879
00:35:59,109 --> 00:35:57,920
the mountains inside the earth that are

880
00:36:01,589 --> 00:35:59,119
natural

881
00:36:03,990 --> 00:36:01,599
that are just humongous

882
00:36:06,470 --> 00:36:04,000
and after seeing these natural openings

883
00:36:09,670 --> 00:36:06,480
and caverns and stuff like that i mean

884
00:36:12,069 --> 00:36:09,680
there can be way more of them inside the

885
00:36:12,950 --> 00:36:12,079
earth than there is of us outside the

886
00:36:15,510 --> 00:36:12,960
earth

887
00:36:17,589 --> 00:36:15,520
and so yes we could be you know the zoo

888
00:36:19,349 --> 00:36:17,599
outside the earth for them and they you

889
00:36:21,430 --> 00:36:19,359
know i'm sure they are using us for

890
00:36:23,589 --> 00:36:21,440
experiments in a lot of different ways

891
00:36:25,270 --> 00:36:23,599
i'm sure that's what abductions are are

892
00:36:27,349 --> 00:36:25,280
happening and stuff like that to

893
00:36:29,109 --> 00:36:27,359
understand a little bit more of what's

894
00:36:30,630 --> 00:36:29,119
going on with us

895
00:36:33,030 --> 00:36:30,640
um

896
00:36:34,950 --> 00:36:33,040
it's very interesting i i just gotta say

897
00:36:37,190 --> 00:36:34,960
i'm very i feel very blessed that i'm

898
00:36:38,390 --> 00:36:37,200
not being abductive at least not that i

899
00:36:40,310 --> 00:36:38,400
know

900
00:36:43,109 --> 00:36:40,320
because i would have to say that has to

901
00:36:45,030 --> 00:36:43,119
be the most scariest thing in life being

902
00:36:47,430 --> 00:36:45,040
abducted because when would you ever

903
00:36:51,510 --> 00:36:47,440
feel safe

904
00:36:53,349 --> 00:36:51,520
never and that is the thing is um

905
00:36:55,750 --> 00:36:53,359
it's better to be a conductee than an

906
00:36:59,190 --> 00:36:55,760
abductee and you know there's all these

907
00:37:02,710 --> 00:36:59,200
levels or varying degrees of interaction

908
00:37:04,630 --> 00:37:02,720
yet is the reality really that

909
00:37:05,910 --> 00:37:04,640
those people are more aware of what is

910
00:37:07,750 --> 00:37:05,920
taking place because there is that

911
00:37:09,430 --> 00:37:07,760
argument that there's

912
00:37:11,270 --> 00:37:09,440
you know this is taking place whether we

913
00:37:12,150 --> 00:37:11,280
want it to be or not

914
00:37:15,430 --> 00:37:12,160
and

915
00:37:19,030 --> 00:37:15,440
those more aware are possibly more aware

916
00:37:21,670 --> 00:37:19,040
that they are contactees or abductees or

917
00:37:23,430 --> 00:37:21,680
in some way shape or form working for

918
00:37:26,550 --> 00:37:23,440
something they don't know

919
00:37:27,910 --> 00:37:26,560
and uh but you do when you see it is is

920
00:37:30,630 --> 00:37:27,920
this

921
00:37:34,310 --> 00:37:30,640
it's so difficult because just the

922
00:37:35,750 --> 00:37:34,320
ability in reality uh to believe that

923
00:37:37,270 --> 00:37:35,760
there is something greater than

924
00:37:39,430 --> 00:37:37,280
ourselves

925
00:37:40,790 --> 00:37:39,440
brings you know when people say oh

926
00:37:42,550 --> 00:37:40,800
that's you know

927
00:37:43,990 --> 00:37:42,560
horrible to say that there's a hierarchy

928
00:37:46,069 --> 00:37:44,000
of these things and it's god's with a

929
00:37:48,790 --> 00:37:46,079
little g what about the big g

930
00:37:51,430 --> 00:37:48,800
well the the very fact that i implied

931
00:37:54,790 --> 00:37:51,440
hierarchy means that there is uh you

932
00:37:56,470 --> 00:37:54,800
know somebody in charge of the rest so

933
00:37:58,550 --> 00:37:56,480
you have to kind of rise above a lot of

934
00:38:01,589 --> 00:37:58,560
this there's the semantics that get

935
00:38:02,630 --> 00:38:01,599
people riled up uh fired up

936
00:38:04,950 --> 00:38:02,640
and

937
00:38:07,670 --> 00:38:04,960
you know not able to do to basically

938
00:38:09,430 --> 00:38:07,680
even discuss the possibility that there

939
00:38:11,190 --> 00:38:09,440
may be entities

940
00:38:17,030 --> 00:38:11,200
that

941
00:38:19,829 --> 00:38:17,040
and choose to interact with us

942
00:38:21,829 --> 00:38:19,839
at least in a dimensional sense

943
00:38:24,790 --> 00:38:21,839
to some end

944
00:38:26,069 --> 00:38:24,800
and that is where the question mark for

945
00:38:34,069 --> 00:38:26,079
me

946
00:38:35,589 --> 00:38:34,079
spirituality because i you know i

947
00:38:37,190 --> 00:38:35,599
especially like you know we brought up

948
00:38:39,109 --> 00:38:37,200
the tall wife at the beginning and i

949
00:38:40,790 --> 00:38:39,119
listened to what charles paul has to say

950
00:38:41,990 --> 00:38:40,800
about certain things about the tall

951
00:38:43,109 --> 00:38:42,000
whites

952
00:38:45,270 --> 00:38:43,119
and

953
00:38:46,630 --> 00:38:45,280
me hearing it on a spiritual aspect i

954
00:38:48,630 --> 00:38:46,640
gotta go well they don't sound very

955
00:38:52,390 --> 00:38:48,640
evolved spiritually

956
00:38:54,630 --> 00:38:52,400
um because he makes claims that if they

957
00:38:56,710 --> 00:38:54,640
go to a planet and they're you know

958
00:38:58,790 --> 00:38:56,720
making creating bases on the planet or

959
00:39:01,030 --> 00:38:58,800
whatever and there's animals there that

960
00:39:02,710 --> 00:39:01,040
they don't like and that

961
00:39:04,230 --> 00:39:02,720
they find the news that they get rid of

962
00:39:06,150 --> 00:39:04,240
them that's not what you do as a

963
00:39:08,470 --> 00:39:06,160
spiritual being you don't get rid of

964
00:39:09,589 --> 00:39:08,480
nature you don't get rid of creation

965
00:39:11,670 --> 00:39:09,599
so

966
00:39:13,270 --> 00:39:11,680
i think it's very interesting when you

967
00:39:14,630 --> 00:39:13,280
start to look at the different races

968
00:39:16,950 --> 00:39:14,640
what they might

969
00:39:18,630 --> 00:39:16,960
project or at least what we see as their

970
00:39:20,310 --> 00:39:18,640
projection and stuff for what little we

971
00:39:21,109 --> 00:39:20,320
know about these different races and

972
00:39:23,270 --> 00:39:21,119
stuff

973
00:39:25,109 --> 00:39:23,280
but then when you go to the

974
00:39:26,470 --> 00:39:25,119
the more evolved ones or at least what i

975
00:39:28,550 --> 00:39:26,480
would think would you know when you deal

976
00:39:31,190 --> 00:39:28,560
with the more evolved species

977
00:39:32,310 --> 00:39:31,200
they would let you just grow naturally

978
00:39:35,030 --> 00:39:32,320
and just

979
00:39:37,910 --> 00:39:35,040
do your own organic thing

980
00:39:40,310 --> 00:39:37,920
as long as it's not interfering with

981
00:39:42,630 --> 00:39:40,320
the rest of the galaxy and creation and

982
00:39:45,190 --> 00:39:42,640
stuff and what we've

983
00:39:46,950 --> 00:39:45,200
we've heard is that when we

984
00:39:49,589 --> 00:39:46,960
let off nuclear bombs that they don't

985
00:39:51,270 --> 00:39:49,599
like that at all because it rips through

986
00:39:53,270 --> 00:39:51,280
creation and it rips through other

987
00:39:54,870 --> 00:39:53,280
dimensions and i do i mean from what i

988
00:39:58,550 --> 00:39:54,880
understand spiritually i could see that

989
00:40:01,670 --> 00:39:58,560
a hundred percent and so um

990
00:40:03,829 --> 00:40:01,680
i i think you know a more evolved specie

991
00:40:04,790 --> 00:40:03,839
would just kind of let another species

992
00:40:11,510 --> 00:40:04,800
grow

993
00:40:16,870 --> 00:40:13,829
i find it fascinating it's

994
00:40:18,630 --> 00:40:16,880
when you go into the spirituality aspect

995
00:40:20,950 --> 00:40:18,640
you're just gonna observe and watch and

996
00:40:23,430 --> 00:40:20,960
maybe give an a helping hand here and

997
00:40:25,430 --> 00:40:23,440
there where again we look at our history

998
00:40:27,829 --> 00:40:25,440
and it seems like at times they have

999
00:40:29,910 --> 00:40:27,839
given us helping hands and we hear

1000
00:40:32,550 --> 00:40:29,920
things about the ant people telling them

1001
00:40:34,470 --> 00:40:32,560
to get into the earth and uh if i

1002
00:40:36,950 --> 00:40:34,480
remember correctly it was like

1003
00:40:38,470 --> 00:40:36,960
the earth was bombarded by asteroids and

1004
00:40:42,230 --> 00:40:38,480
stuff and then they came out of the

1005
00:40:43,910 --> 00:40:42,240
ground later on and respond you know so

1006
00:40:45,910 --> 00:40:43,920
i do believe they're out there helping

1007
00:40:47,910 --> 00:40:45,920
us in a lot of different ways

1008
00:40:50,390 --> 00:40:47,920
um and i i believe they have a

1009
00:40:53,510 --> 00:40:50,400
connection with us in which ways i'm not

1010
00:40:55,430 --> 00:40:53,520
sure but uh it's definitely fascinating

1011
00:40:57,430 --> 00:40:55,440
hope i wasn't rambling on too much there

1012
00:41:00,230 --> 00:40:57,440
no it's actually perfect that you

1013
00:41:01,589 --> 00:41:00,240
dropped the ant people

1014
00:41:03,589 --> 00:41:01,599
um

1015
00:41:05,589 --> 00:41:03,599
reference because

1016
00:41:07,670 --> 00:41:05,599
it is so important

1017
00:41:09,829 --> 00:41:07,680
that it is brought up because this has

1018
00:41:13,990 --> 00:41:09,839
been something that is discussed for

1019
00:41:17,589 --> 00:41:14,000
millennia the belief that this

1020
00:41:19,750 --> 00:41:17,599
some sort of inter

1021
00:41:24,230 --> 00:41:19,760
i guess i guess the correct term would

1022
00:41:26,710 --> 00:41:25,030
well

1023
00:41:29,829 --> 00:41:26,720
are they are are they are they

1024
00:41:30,710 --> 00:41:29,839
interdimensional or are they more

1025
00:41:34,069 --> 00:41:30,720
you know

1026
00:41:34,870 --> 00:41:34,079
part more part of our reality than we

1027
00:41:35,990 --> 00:41:34,880
are

1028
00:41:43,270 --> 00:41:36,000
and

1029
00:41:44,710 --> 00:41:43,280
out of our reality is just

1030
00:41:48,630 --> 00:41:44,720
our ability

1031
00:41:52,069 --> 00:41:48,640
to view a scope slightly outside of our

1032
00:41:53,750 --> 00:41:52,079
reality and it it's very interesting as

1033
00:41:56,470 --> 00:41:53,760
you mentioned though when you're in

1034
00:41:58,630 --> 00:41:56,480
particular areas it seems

1035
00:42:00,069 --> 00:41:58,640
and the list is in at infinitum that i

1036
00:42:01,109 --> 00:42:00,079
mean there's plenty everybody's got

1037
00:42:01,910 --> 00:42:01,119
their own

1038
00:42:04,150 --> 00:42:01,920
but

1039
00:42:05,589 --> 00:42:04,160
in a general sense there are these areas

1040
00:42:07,990 --> 00:42:05,599
that have

1041
00:42:09,589 --> 00:42:08,000
their soft spots it seems

1042
00:42:11,829 --> 00:42:09,599
in the veil

1043
00:42:14,230 --> 00:42:11,839
where

1044
00:42:15,750 --> 00:42:14,240
these and the argument could go back and

1045
00:42:20,150 --> 00:42:15,760
forth you know is

1046
00:42:23,910 --> 00:42:20,160
is our interaction with these uh

1047
00:42:26,550 --> 00:42:23,920
entities that seem to be precognitive

1048
00:42:28,550 --> 00:42:26,560
and sentient in their capability

1049
00:42:30,790 --> 00:42:28,560
is our interaction with them something

1050
00:42:33,589 --> 00:42:30,800
that we spur on just by entering the

1051
00:42:36,069 --> 00:42:33,599
area and that is something i was told

1052
00:42:38,550 --> 00:42:36,079
quite a while ago by somebody with a lot

1053
00:42:40,790 --> 00:42:38,560
of uh

1054
00:42:41,990 --> 00:42:40,800
integrity and uh capability and

1055
00:42:45,589 --> 00:42:42,000
background

1056
00:42:49,030 --> 00:42:45,599
that we open these biochemical portals

1057
00:42:51,910 --> 00:42:49,040
quite easily if we return to areas much

1058
00:42:54,309 --> 00:42:51,920
like an electrical conduit

1059
00:42:56,230 --> 00:42:54,319
you know the weakest link type thing if

1060
00:42:57,670 --> 00:42:56,240
you're able to burn through a conduit at

1061
00:43:00,870 --> 00:42:57,680
the same spot

1062
00:43:07,030 --> 00:43:04,870
the diode or that is where the repair or

1063
00:43:10,069 --> 00:43:07,040
that is where the the fault or the spark

1064
00:43:12,950 --> 00:43:10,079
or the short or the glitch

1065
00:43:14,230 --> 00:43:12,960
of that matrix of some sort is most

1066
00:43:15,349 --> 00:43:14,240
accessed

1067
00:43:19,349 --> 00:43:15,359
and

1068
00:43:21,190 --> 00:43:19,359
um yeah how is it possible that these is

1069
00:43:23,030 --> 00:43:21,200
is it us creating these things like you

1070
00:43:24,829 --> 00:43:23,040
said i mean i don't know this is the

1071
00:43:27,750 --> 00:43:24,839
biggest question ever

1072
00:43:30,710 --> 00:43:27,760
really you know the

1073
00:43:33,270 --> 00:43:30,720
the mind is so powerful

1074
00:43:34,710 --> 00:43:33,280
i think in some senses and with some

1075
00:43:37,030 --> 00:43:34,720
people

1076
00:43:38,550 --> 00:43:37,040
i think their imagination is creating

1077
00:43:42,630 --> 00:43:38,560
some of it

1078
00:43:44,790 --> 00:43:42,640
and and probably more than we expect um

1079
00:43:46,550 --> 00:43:44,800
because the imagination is a very

1080
00:43:47,750 --> 00:43:46,560
powerful thing and that's where when it

1081
00:43:50,150 --> 00:43:47,760
comes to

1082
00:43:52,870 --> 00:43:50,160
researchers and going to very crazy

1083
00:43:55,670 --> 00:43:52,880
paranormal spots i think you got to keep

1084
00:43:57,750 --> 00:43:55,680
yourself in check and be a very honest

1085
00:43:59,190 --> 00:43:57,760
person when you're looking at things you

1086
00:44:00,550 --> 00:43:59,200
don't understand

1087
00:44:02,550 --> 00:44:00,560
um because

1088
00:44:04,390 --> 00:44:02,560
just the same as our imagination can

1089
00:44:06,390 --> 00:44:04,400
keep us safe

1090
00:44:09,190 --> 00:44:06,400
and keep our thoughts very sheltered it

1091
00:44:12,150 --> 00:44:09,200
can expand them into wild

1092
00:44:13,589 --> 00:44:12,160
crazy thoughts and imaginations and

1093
00:44:15,430 --> 00:44:13,599
saying oh this is the way it is

1094
00:44:17,109 --> 00:44:15,440
especially when our ego gets in the way

1095
00:44:18,550 --> 00:44:17,119
of what we're seeing

1096
00:44:22,230 --> 00:44:18,560
um so

1097
00:44:24,550 --> 00:44:22,240
it can be both i think in a lot of ways

1098
00:44:25,829 --> 00:44:24,560
um

1099
00:44:27,910 --> 00:44:25,839
there's another point i was going to go

1100
00:44:29,750 --> 00:44:27,920
out there and now i forgot sorry

1101
00:44:31,750 --> 00:44:29,760
no you nailed it on the head actually

1102
00:44:33,910 --> 00:44:31,760
bringing up the general sense of the ego

1103
00:44:34,950 --> 00:44:33,920
in some way clarifying that when it's

1104
00:44:36,390 --> 00:44:34,960
present

1105
00:44:38,150 --> 00:44:36,400
the ability

1106
00:44:41,109 --> 00:44:38,160
there's absolutely

1107
00:44:43,990 --> 00:44:41,119
no ability i should say to interact

1108
00:44:45,349 --> 00:44:44,000
really i mean the ego disrupts

1109
00:44:46,550 --> 00:44:45,359
and

1110
00:44:48,790 --> 00:44:46,560
deflects

1111
00:44:52,710 --> 00:44:48,800
and

1112
00:44:54,790 --> 00:44:52,720
interactions to the point where

1113
00:44:57,430 --> 00:44:54,800
interaction with

1114
00:44:59,750 --> 00:44:57,440
what we are discussing is not available

1115
00:45:01,750 --> 00:44:59,760
so the ego is not your amigo like you

1116
00:45:04,390 --> 00:45:01,760
want him gone and

1117
00:45:06,150 --> 00:45:04,400
you also want

1118
00:45:07,589 --> 00:45:06,160
to be operating

1119
00:45:08,950 --> 00:45:07,599
at a level

1120
00:45:11,750 --> 00:45:08,960
where

1121
00:45:13,829 --> 00:45:11,760
judgment is kind of not there which is

1122
00:45:15,510 --> 00:45:13,839
so strange because you would think that

1123
00:45:17,430 --> 00:45:15,520
would minimize your power but it

1124
00:45:18,790 --> 00:45:17,440
actually expands your power in some way

1125
00:45:21,030 --> 00:45:18,800
shape or form dealing with these

1126
00:45:22,630 --> 00:45:21,040
precognitive

1127
00:45:24,150 --> 00:45:22,640
uh entities and they're not all

1128
00:45:26,950 --> 00:45:24,160
trickster in nature but i would say that

1129
00:45:28,710 --> 00:45:26,960
a wide majority some are which is

1130
00:45:30,790 --> 00:45:28,720
i appreciate that that's they have a

1131
00:45:32,550 --> 00:45:30,800
sense of humor in some way

1132
00:45:34,550 --> 00:45:32,560
yeah and then they might not even be

1133
00:45:37,190 --> 00:45:34,560
trying to be tricksters it might just be

1134
00:45:38,870 --> 00:45:37,200
that that technology is so far advanced

1135
00:45:42,630 --> 00:45:38,880
than us

1136
00:45:44,150 --> 00:45:42,640
that we just see it as magic and maybe

1137
00:45:46,309 --> 00:45:44,160
they're not being tricksters at all we

1138
00:45:48,470 --> 00:45:46,319
just can't perceive what they're showing

1139
00:45:50,470 --> 00:45:48,480
us and i would have to say that's

1140
00:45:51,510 --> 00:45:50,480
probably a lot of it at this moment

1141
00:45:53,750 --> 00:45:51,520
because

1142
00:45:56,309 --> 00:45:53,760
they're showing us stuff that we have no

1143
00:45:59,270 --> 00:45:56,319
concept of how it's being created

1144
00:46:01,270 --> 00:45:59,280
um and so it's just our imagination that

1145
00:46:02,069 --> 00:46:01,280
runs wild trying to think of what is

1146
00:46:03,349 --> 00:46:02,079
this

1147
00:46:05,030 --> 00:46:03,359
and so

1148
00:46:07,829 --> 00:46:05,040
maybe they're trying to give us the most

1149
00:46:09,910 --> 00:46:07,839
simple answer possible but like you said

1150
00:46:11,750 --> 00:46:09,920
we're that fly fisherman still and we

1151
00:46:15,109 --> 00:46:11,760
don't understand what's truly underneath

1152
00:46:16,790 --> 00:46:15,119
the face of that water yet well yeah it

1153
00:46:19,670 --> 00:46:16,800
really you know

1154
00:46:21,109 --> 00:46:19,680
it it eerily reminds me of certain

1155
00:46:23,349 --> 00:46:21,119
sayings

1156
00:46:25,990 --> 00:46:23,359
that uh riddle

1157
00:46:29,750 --> 00:46:26,000
um various codexes

1158
00:46:32,710 --> 00:46:29,760
whether those be the bible the quran the

1159
00:46:35,109 --> 00:46:32,720
you know they all every cultural

1160
00:46:38,230 --> 00:46:35,119
spiritual religious text

1161
00:46:40,829 --> 00:46:38,240
seems to store at least in the originals

1162
00:46:48,630 --> 00:46:45,910
this this this this elixir of invoking

1163
00:46:49,990 --> 00:46:48,640
entities that are not of this realm

1164
00:46:52,390 --> 00:46:50,000
and

1165
00:46:53,750 --> 00:46:52,400
this uh belief

1166
00:46:55,589 --> 00:46:53,760
that

1167
00:46:59,030 --> 00:46:55,599
they interact

1168
00:47:01,750 --> 00:46:59,040
communicate and in some way

1169
00:47:03,670 --> 00:47:01,760
these they bring you closer to the

1170
00:47:05,670 --> 00:47:03,680
singularity which brings the whole like

1171
00:47:08,230 --> 00:47:05,680
transhumanist thing but

1172
00:47:10,710 --> 00:47:08,240
with promises of like super human

1173
00:47:12,390 --> 00:47:10,720
abilities a lot like skin walkers you

1174
00:47:15,510 --> 00:47:12,400
know you get this promise of

1175
00:47:16,950 --> 00:47:15,520
being able to do this for this but

1176
00:47:18,550 --> 00:47:16,960
um

1177
00:47:19,510 --> 00:47:18,560
they're always being debt

1178
00:47:21,670 --> 00:47:19,520
dealt

1179
00:47:23,990 --> 00:47:21,680
with sub-human realities so it's really

1180
00:47:24,950 --> 00:47:24,000
strange humans are already sort of in

1181
00:47:28,150 --> 00:47:24,960
that

1182
00:47:30,470 --> 00:47:28,160
naturally occurring reality of

1183
00:47:33,109 --> 00:47:30,480
you know were these moral

1184
00:47:33,990 --> 00:47:33,119
somewhat moral

1185
00:47:37,589 --> 00:47:34,000
uh

1186
00:47:38,950 --> 00:47:37,599
meat sacks living a very real reality

1187
00:47:40,870 --> 00:47:38,960
with a very

1188
00:47:43,109 --> 00:47:40,880
you know we have a shelf life

1189
00:47:44,950 --> 00:47:43,119
and we seem very basic

1190
00:47:48,630 --> 00:47:44,960
at least in a living sense or a very

1191
00:47:52,790 --> 00:47:48,640
real sense on some basis but many or at

1192
00:47:54,950 --> 00:47:52,800
least it seems many are seeming to

1193
00:47:56,470 --> 00:47:54,960
look above the clouds and realize that

1194
00:47:58,790 --> 00:47:56,480
there's more

1195
00:48:01,670 --> 00:47:58,800
to all this in a general sense

1196
00:48:03,190 --> 00:48:01,680
and that uh

1197
00:48:05,270 --> 00:48:03,200
there's more to us

1198
00:48:06,870 --> 00:48:05,280
you know it where is this headed like

1199
00:48:08,870 --> 00:48:06,880
where are we going is it going to be

1200
00:48:11,030 --> 00:48:08,880
some strange transhumanist agenda in the

1201
00:48:13,030 --> 00:48:11,040
future with the new world order

1202
00:48:14,069 --> 00:48:13,040
you know is there a secret elite that's

1203
00:48:16,069 --> 00:48:14,079
trying to

1204
00:48:17,030 --> 00:48:16,079
just get us to interact

1205
00:48:18,470 --> 00:48:17,040
with

1206
00:48:20,710 --> 00:48:18,480
you know the

1207
00:48:23,190 --> 00:48:20,720
the artificial intelligence and that's

1208
00:48:25,510 --> 00:48:23,200
that's it that's what we will end up as

1209
00:48:27,589 --> 00:48:25,520
or is there more to this this day-to-day

1210
00:48:29,829 --> 00:48:27,599
life

1211
00:48:32,390 --> 00:48:29,839
well there's definitely a lot more to

1212
00:48:35,349 --> 00:48:32,400
this um i think with your just bringing

1213
00:48:37,910 --> 00:48:35,359
up with other people manipulating this i

1214
00:48:40,710 --> 00:48:37,920
think that is very prevalent especially

1215
00:48:42,470 --> 00:48:40,720
what we're seeing now in the world today

1216
00:48:45,190 --> 00:48:42,480
that they're trying to manipulate us

1217
00:48:45,990 --> 00:48:45,200
they're trying to make us uh transhuman

1218
00:48:47,589 --> 00:48:46,000
uh

1219
00:48:49,510 --> 00:48:47,599
right now so

1220
00:48:51,270 --> 00:48:49,520
you know anybody out there i mean you

1221
00:48:52,950 --> 00:48:51,280
can do whatever you want you got free

1222
00:48:55,430 --> 00:48:52,960
will that's what the creative energy of

1223
00:48:57,109 --> 00:48:55,440
all that is gave to you to be able to be

1224
00:48:59,990 --> 00:48:57,119
and do whatever you want so if you want

1225
00:49:02,470 --> 00:49:00,000
to go get the vaccine please do

1226
00:49:05,190 --> 00:49:02,480
you know be safe but i wouldn't do it

1227
00:49:06,230 --> 00:49:05,200
right now we're purebloods okay

1228
00:49:08,230 --> 00:49:06,240
and

1229
00:49:11,589 --> 00:49:08,240
the creative energy of all that is made

1230
00:49:13,589 --> 00:49:11,599
us very very very special we have

1231
00:49:15,349 --> 00:49:13,599
everything within us

1232
00:49:16,790 --> 00:49:15,359
we are

1233
00:49:18,950 --> 00:49:16,800
creation

1234
00:49:21,190 --> 00:49:18,960
you know crystals all that stuff is fun

1235
00:49:23,670 --> 00:49:21,200
little tools to deal with but once you

1236
00:49:25,829 --> 00:49:23,680
realize how those things work realize

1237
00:49:26,950 --> 00:49:25,839
that you can do the same thing within

1238
00:49:30,870 --> 00:49:26,960
yourself

1239
00:49:34,230 --> 00:49:30,880
so i do believe what we're seeing here

1240
00:49:36,150 --> 00:49:34,240
is our evolution and and for in order

1241
00:49:38,230 --> 00:49:36,160
for us to understand who we are and

1242
00:49:41,109 --> 00:49:38,240
where we can evolve to

1243
00:49:43,030 --> 00:49:41,119
we have to start understanding these

1244
00:49:45,109 --> 00:49:43,040
other worldly things that are happening

1245
00:49:47,349 --> 00:49:45,119
around us i believe at least this is my

1246
00:49:49,750 --> 00:49:47,359
goal and my my adventure right now in

1247
00:49:53,190 --> 00:49:49,760
this existence is to understand my

1248
00:49:55,190 --> 00:49:53,200
spirituality and what can they show

1249
00:49:56,870 --> 00:49:55,200
me about myself

1250
00:49:59,030 --> 00:49:56,880
you know because

1251
00:50:00,710 --> 00:49:59,040
i believe we have everything within us

1252
00:50:03,270 --> 00:50:00,720
we can do

1253
00:50:05,589 --> 00:50:03,280
godly amazing things it's just

1254
00:50:08,549 --> 00:50:05,599
understanding your own power and that

1255
00:50:10,309 --> 00:50:08,559
again goes to the mind and and the power

1256
00:50:12,549 --> 00:50:10,319
of the heart and the mind

1257
00:50:14,790 --> 00:50:12,559
if we don't believe it's possible well

1258
00:50:17,589 --> 00:50:14,800
let me tell you it's not possible if you

1259
00:50:19,670 --> 00:50:17,599
believe in it it is then possible

1260
00:50:21,190 --> 00:50:19,680
and it is the power of the mind the

1261
00:50:22,230 --> 00:50:21,200
power of us

1262
00:50:23,910 --> 00:50:22,240
and so

1263
00:50:25,829 --> 00:50:23,920
a lot of this stuff we're talking about

1264
00:50:27,349 --> 00:50:25,839
with the bible a lot of that stuff has

1265
00:50:29,190 --> 00:50:27,359
that information in there but you've got

1266
00:50:31,109 --> 00:50:29,200
to be on your own spiritual journey to

1267
00:50:31,990 --> 00:50:31,119
see it understand it

1268
00:50:35,750 --> 00:50:32,000
so

1269
00:50:37,670 --> 00:50:35,760
would be on that spiritual journey for

1270
00:50:38,630 --> 00:50:37,680
themselves to be the best they can

1271
00:50:40,950 --> 00:50:38,640
become

1272
00:50:42,150 --> 00:50:40,960
that god energy um

1273
00:50:43,990 --> 00:50:42,160
and

1274
00:50:46,549 --> 00:50:44,000
keep the ego in check i don't think we

1275
00:50:49,030 --> 00:50:46,559
kill the ego i think the ego serves a

1276
00:50:51,510 --> 00:50:49,040
very important thing but when you let

1277
00:50:53,750 --> 00:50:51,520
your balance get out of ego just like

1278
00:50:56,150 --> 00:50:53,760
any other part of your existence it's

1279
00:50:58,069 --> 00:50:56,160
out of balance it's never a good thing

1280
00:50:59,829 --> 00:50:58,079
you always keep everything in balance

1281
00:51:00,630 --> 00:50:59,839
it's the ying and the yang

1282
00:51:02,790 --> 00:51:00,640
so

1283
00:51:05,670 --> 00:51:02,800
yes i think with what we're experiencing

1284
00:51:08,790 --> 00:51:05,680
here is just part of where our evolution

1285
00:51:10,630 --> 00:51:08,800
is going and for us to understand how to

1286
00:51:13,270 --> 00:51:10,640
take it to the next level because unless

1287
00:51:14,549 --> 00:51:13,280
we can see it we can't get there does

1288
00:51:16,230 --> 00:51:14,559
that make sense

1289
00:51:18,549 --> 00:51:16,240
absolutely man

1290
00:51:20,870 --> 00:51:18,559
and you know talking getting back to the

1291
00:51:22,870 --> 00:51:20,880
basin a little bit i just recently read

1292
00:51:25,270 --> 00:51:22,880
footprints in the wilderness a history

1293
00:51:26,230 --> 00:51:25,280
of the lost roads mines

1294
00:51:27,270 --> 00:51:26,240
and

1295
00:51:28,549 --> 00:51:27,280
something that

1296
00:51:30,630 --> 00:51:28,559
kind of

1297
00:51:33,670 --> 00:51:30,640
you know stood out to me is the fact

1298
00:51:35,589 --> 00:51:33,680
that it says a history of the lost roads

1299
00:51:37,030 --> 00:51:35,599
mines

1300
00:51:38,710 --> 00:51:37,040
a plural

1301
00:51:41,270 --> 00:51:38,720
everybody's always looking for the lost

1302
00:51:42,230 --> 00:51:41,280
road mine and i get that there is you

1303
00:51:44,230 --> 00:51:42,240
know

1304
00:51:45,589 --> 00:51:44,240
apparently a larger one and there's

1305
00:51:47,510 --> 00:51:45,599
others but

1306
00:51:50,150 --> 00:51:47,520
something this brings up again the

1307
00:51:52,549 --> 00:51:50,160
uintah basin because that is where the

1308
00:51:53,829 --> 00:51:52,559
history leads one if you follow the

1309
00:51:56,790 --> 00:51:53,839
footprints

1310
00:51:58,790 --> 00:51:56,800
and um it's a wide area everywhere from

1311
00:52:00,950 --> 00:51:58,800
tabiona to

1312
00:52:02,829 --> 00:52:00,960
um literally where i used to be a fly

1313
00:52:06,230 --> 00:52:02,839
fishing guide like almost the

1314
00:52:09,670 --> 00:52:06,240
easternmost boundary of the uintas which

1315
00:52:11,750 --> 00:52:09,680
are a very strange area in themselves

1316
00:52:13,349 --> 00:52:11,760
you've had the

1317
00:52:16,390 --> 00:52:13,359
the uh

1318
00:52:19,109 --> 00:52:16,400
i guess blessing or the ability to

1319
00:52:21,750 --> 00:52:19,119
camp blind frog ranch

1320
00:52:23,589 --> 00:52:21,760
um or at least they're in the general

1321
00:52:26,390 --> 00:52:23,599
sense of the uintas

1322
00:52:28,710 --> 00:52:26,400
what have you um felt camping there in

1323
00:52:30,470 --> 00:52:28,720
the uintas what have you felt is any

1324
00:52:32,790 --> 00:52:30,480
anything magical solid when you when you

1325
00:52:35,190 --> 00:52:32,800
look back

1326
00:52:37,990 --> 00:52:35,200
yeah um you know

1327
00:52:41,190 --> 00:52:38,000
that's a very very special place

1328
00:52:43,349 --> 00:52:41,200
um and yes i was very privileged to be

1329
00:52:44,549 --> 00:52:43,359
invited up to blind frog ranch and spent

1330
00:52:46,470 --> 00:52:44,559
the night there

1331
00:52:49,190 --> 00:52:46,480
saturday night with eric at awakening

1332
00:52:51,829 --> 00:52:49,200
man and raw

1333
00:52:54,309 --> 00:52:51,839
we had an amazing light we had our

1334
00:52:57,109 --> 00:52:54,319
night vision goggles uh recorders and

1335
00:52:59,030 --> 00:52:57,119
everything and it was very very active

1336
00:53:00,710 --> 00:52:59,040
the night we were there

1337
00:53:02,549 --> 00:53:00,720
i would have to say there was at least

1338
00:53:05,190 --> 00:53:02,559
15 to 20

1339
00:53:06,549 --> 00:53:05,200
different unidentified flying objects at

1340
00:53:09,030 --> 00:53:06,559
night uh

1341
00:53:12,230 --> 00:53:09,040
where they all crashed i i can't tell

1342
00:53:14,630 --> 00:53:12,240
you but there was a lot of interesting

1343
00:53:20,150 --> 00:53:14,640
movement in the sky that night

1344
00:53:22,069 --> 00:53:20,160
um as far as the land itself um

1345
00:53:23,750 --> 00:53:22,079
it is very unique and special you could

1346
00:53:25,589 --> 00:53:23,760
just feel

1347
00:53:28,470 --> 00:53:25,599
the energy from the

1348
00:53:29,670 --> 00:53:28,480
the land you know it it's a very sacred

1349
00:53:31,589 --> 00:53:29,680
place or at least that's the way it

1350
00:53:32,630 --> 00:53:31,599
feels to me is that it's a very sacred

1351
00:53:33,430 --> 00:53:32,640
place

1352
00:53:35,030 --> 00:53:33,440
um

1353
00:53:36,470 --> 00:53:35,040
unfortunately i didn't get to spend more

1354
00:53:38,790 --> 00:53:36,480
time there because i would have loved to

1355
00:53:40,630 --> 00:53:38,800
just wandered out by myself and sat

1356
00:53:43,270 --> 00:53:40,640
somewhere and meditated and really just

1357
00:53:45,829 --> 00:53:43,280
tried to feel the land and maybe even

1358
00:53:47,829 --> 00:53:45,839
what the land's expressing to me um

1359
00:53:49,910 --> 00:53:47,839
because that again when you know how to

1360
00:53:51,109 --> 00:53:49,920
tap into yourself and everybody has this

1361
00:53:53,109 --> 00:53:51,119
ability

1362
00:53:56,309 --> 00:53:53,119
you can tap into places and you can

1363
00:53:58,710 --> 00:53:56,319
start to just let go and feel and it

1364
00:54:00,309 --> 00:53:58,720
will give you information and i mean i

1365
00:54:02,309 --> 00:54:00,319
would love to be able to sit there and

1366
00:54:05,270 --> 00:54:02,319
do that at blind frog ranch because i

1367
00:54:07,190 --> 00:54:05,280
think it's a very special place um

1368
00:54:10,710 --> 00:54:07,200
we've talked before i think duane is a

1369
00:54:12,790 --> 00:54:10,720
very amazing guy i really like dwayne uh

1370
00:54:14,790 --> 00:54:12,800
i've talked to his son chad a little bit

1371
00:54:16,870 --> 00:54:14,800
but not as much as dwayne and i just

1372
00:54:20,069 --> 00:54:16,880
think he has great energy i'm really

1373
00:54:22,230 --> 00:54:20,079
excited what they're doing there um

1374
00:54:24,309 --> 00:54:22,240
and so i hope to get back on this

1375
00:54:26,069 --> 00:54:24,319
property at one time and be able to do

1376
00:54:28,710 --> 00:54:26,079
some more research there

1377
00:54:30,470 --> 00:54:28,720
but the uenta base itself is absolutely

1378
00:54:32,309 --> 00:54:30,480
amazing i've had the privilege of

1379
00:54:34,549 --> 00:54:32,319
spending the night and camping in in

1380
00:54:37,109 --> 00:54:34,559
several different areas out there a

1381
00:54:39,270 --> 00:54:37,119
friend that has property in duchesne and

1382
00:54:42,470 --> 00:54:39,280
when we were camping there i seen ufos

1383
00:54:43,990 --> 00:54:42,480
in the sky there as well too

1384
00:54:46,069 --> 00:54:44,000
basically you see them almost everywhere

1385
00:54:48,309 --> 00:54:46,079
out there as you know

1386
00:54:50,870 --> 00:54:48,319
and it's a very special place i'm

1387
00:54:53,430 --> 00:54:50,880
looking forward to it start to warm up

1388
00:54:55,030 --> 00:54:53,440
this year so i can get back out there

1389
00:54:56,630 --> 00:54:55,040
um

1390
00:54:58,789 --> 00:54:56,640
and you know it's just special if you

1391
00:55:00,630 --> 00:54:58,799
get anybody gets a chance to go out

1392
00:55:02,230 --> 00:55:00,640
there and you went to basa i definitely

1393
00:55:04,710 --> 00:55:02,240
suggest it i mean there's everything

1394
00:55:07,190 --> 00:55:04,720
going on out there there's bigfoots we

1395
00:55:08,230 --> 00:55:07,200
heard a bigfoot out in the ashley forest

1396
00:55:09,910 --> 00:55:08,240
uh

1397
00:55:11,910 --> 00:55:09,920
a few months back when i was at your

1398
00:55:14,150 --> 00:55:11,920
property we were off with eric and them

1399
00:55:16,309 --> 00:55:14,160
doing some bigfoot hunting so

1400
00:55:18,230 --> 00:55:16,319
i mean you can just anything paranormal

1401
00:55:20,150 --> 00:55:18,240
you want to do you can do at the uh

1402
00:55:21,109 --> 00:55:20,160
that's what's awesome about it it's all

1403
00:55:23,430 --> 00:55:21,119
there

1404
00:55:27,109 --> 00:55:23,440
and you're right about duchenne it is

1405
00:55:33,349 --> 00:55:29,910
it's it's kind of an unspoken gem

1406
00:55:36,309 --> 00:55:33,359
the duchene so much happens

1407
00:55:38,789 --> 00:55:36,319
uh within the boundaries of duchenne

1408
00:55:40,950 --> 00:55:38,799
and you find that but it is the whole

1409
00:55:43,670 --> 00:55:40,960
area really like you mentioned that that

1410
00:55:44,870 --> 00:55:43,680
seems to be pretty darn

1411
00:55:46,789 --> 00:55:44,880
active

1412
00:55:53,349 --> 00:55:46,799
jeff you could go anywhere roosevelt

1413
00:55:57,990 --> 00:55:55,990
i know you're talking about um

1414
00:56:02,230 --> 00:55:58,000
that's the area over there by blind frog

1415
00:56:04,230 --> 00:56:02,240
ranch altamonte altamonte yeah

1416
00:56:05,270 --> 00:56:04,240
yeah but anywhere out there is very

1417
00:56:07,829 --> 00:56:05,280
active

1418
00:56:08,710 --> 00:56:07,839
point the point yep the point that's it

1419
00:56:11,190 --> 00:56:08,720
yes

1420
00:56:15,430 --> 00:56:13,589
but yeah very active place very amazing

1421
00:56:18,230 --> 00:56:15,440
you know i mean you fell in love with it

1422
00:56:20,470 --> 00:56:18,240
i'm now in love with this place i i i'm

1423
00:56:22,630 --> 00:56:20,480
so happy i'm in salt lake city now and

1424
00:56:24,870 --> 00:56:22,640
it is just hours away so

1425
00:56:27,670 --> 00:56:24,880
um yeah i'm looking very forward to this

1426
00:56:29,589 --> 00:56:27,680
summer and uh i talked to you before i

1427
00:56:31,589 --> 00:56:29,599
i'm gonna start to create a documentary

1428
00:56:33,670 --> 00:56:31,599
about out there and everything that we

1429
00:56:36,549 --> 00:56:33,680
can discover and find

1430
00:56:38,870 --> 00:56:36,559
yeah it's becoming very intriguing the

1431
00:56:41,030 --> 00:56:38,880
um different angles that different

1432
00:56:42,630 --> 00:56:41,040
researchers are taking attacking a lot

1433
00:56:46,309 --> 00:56:42,640
of the same

1434
00:56:49,670 --> 00:56:46,319
historic evidence everything from giants

1435
00:56:51,270 --> 00:56:49,680
to underground cavern systems

1436
00:56:54,230 --> 00:56:51,280
to

1437
00:56:56,069 --> 00:56:54,240
you know as we mentioned the lost roads

1438
00:56:58,630 --> 00:56:56,079
mines

1439
00:57:00,630 --> 00:56:58,640
possible aztec it seems this is becoming

1440
00:57:03,430 --> 00:57:00,640
more and more of a reality

1441
00:57:06,150 --> 00:57:03,440
the uh aztec connection

1442
00:57:09,109 --> 00:57:06,160
that there is a very real aztec

1443
00:57:10,309 --> 00:57:09,119
connection to some of the uh things that

1444
00:57:13,750 --> 00:57:10,319
are being found

1445
00:57:16,230 --> 00:57:13,760
and what what do you think is uh in in

1446
00:57:16,950 --> 00:57:16,240
the works for the future of utah before

1447
00:57:20,710 --> 00:57:16,960
we

1448
00:57:23,390 --> 00:57:20,720
listeners where to keep up with you

1449
00:57:26,230 --> 00:57:23,400
whether that's social media or

1450
00:57:28,710 --> 00:57:26,240
etalk.tv or where they can where they

1451
00:57:31,270 --> 00:57:28,720
can keep up with what you have happening

1452
00:57:33,430 --> 00:57:31,280
all right awesome yeah um as far as

1453
00:57:34,309 --> 00:57:33,440
what's the future of utah

1454
00:57:36,710 --> 00:57:34,319
um

1455
00:57:38,829 --> 00:57:36,720
i think the future's bright here uh i

1456
00:57:41,430 --> 00:57:38,839
love the states um

1457
00:57:43,750 --> 00:57:41,440
but i think what's happening at the

1458
00:57:45,510 --> 00:57:43,760
uenta basa is just really starting to

1459
00:57:47,430 --> 00:57:45,520
catch steam again

1460
00:57:48,950 --> 00:57:47,440
i think there's going to be a lot of

1461
00:57:50,950 --> 00:57:48,960
information that comes out of there

1462
00:57:52,950 --> 00:57:50,960
within the next 10 years i'm hoping to

1463
00:57:55,190 --> 00:57:52,960
bring out as much as i can

1464
00:57:56,789 --> 00:57:55,200
i know you're going to be diligent about

1465
00:57:57,990 --> 00:57:56,799
finding out information out there as

1466
00:58:01,109 --> 00:57:58,000
well too

1467
00:58:03,430 --> 00:58:01,119
um and i know we got eric who's in love

1468
00:58:04,549 --> 00:58:03,440
with the uenta base as well too so i i

1469
00:58:06,150 --> 00:58:04,559
really think there's going to be a lot

1470
00:58:09,030 --> 00:58:06,160
of researching that goes on there in the

1471
00:58:10,549 --> 00:58:09,040
next 10 years um and i think a lot of

1472
00:58:13,990 --> 00:58:10,559
amazing things are going to come out of

1473
00:58:15,030 --> 00:58:14,000
there and things we never ever expected

1474
00:58:16,710 --> 00:58:15,040
um

1475
00:58:18,630 --> 00:58:16,720
and things that will probably change our

1476
00:58:19,829 --> 00:58:18,640
life forever

1477
00:58:21,589 --> 00:58:19,839
or at least these are the things i'm

1478
00:58:23,829 --> 00:58:21,599
hoping um

1479
00:58:25,750 --> 00:58:23,839
but yeah it's definitely again it's a

1480
00:58:27,190 --> 00:58:25,760
special place i definitely highly

1481
00:58:29,910 --> 00:58:27,200
recommend it to anybody that gets a

1482
00:58:31,109 --> 00:58:29,920
chance to go out there and experience it

1483
00:58:33,190 --> 00:58:31,119
definitely bring your night vision

1484
00:58:36,150 --> 00:58:33,200
goggles because you will use them

1485
00:58:38,069 --> 00:58:36,160
um and then where can you find me um of

1486
00:58:42,549 --> 00:58:38,079
course um

1487
00:58:48,069 --> 00:58:45,109
e talk dot tv

1488
00:58:50,230 --> 00:58:48,079
you can find me there i stream my show

1489
00:58:52,069 --> 00:58:50,240
live there every tuesday night from

1490
00:58:53,910 --> 00:58:52,079
seven to nine pacific

1491
00:58:56,950 --> 00:58:53,920
this week we'll have as i was saying

1492
00:58:59,510 --> 00:58:56,960
earlier brent boatman he's experiencer

1493
00:59:02,630 --> 00:58:59,520
when he was younger he had some guy

1494
00:59:05,589 --> 00:59:02,640
teach him a meditation on how to call in

1495
00:59:06,950 --> 00:59:05,599
crafts and he calls him in at wills he

1496
00:59:09,349 --> 00:59:06,960
even has a

1497
00:59:11,750 --> 00:59:09,359
telepathy communication going on with

1498
00:59:13,589 --> 00:59:11,760
these people they give him information

1499
00:59:15,910 --> 00:59:13,599
he's really fascinating so i'll have

1500
00:59:16,789 --> 00:59:15,920
them on this tuesday

1501
00:59:18,710 --> 00:59:16,799
you can

1502
00:59:20,710 --> 00:59:18,720
also find me on rumble you've got

1503
00:59:22,309 --> 00:59:20,720
etalktv on rumble

1504
00:59:24,069 --> 00:59:22,319
get her you can find me personally

1505
00:59:26,710 --> 00:59:24,079
jeffree now on getter

1506
00:59:28,470 --> 00:59:26,720
you got etalk on me we and also you can

1507
00:59:29,270 --> 00:59:28,480
find me there

1508
00:59:32,309 --> 00:59:29,280
but

1509
00:59:34,390 --> 00:59:32,319
i'm trying to keep everything on etalk.t

1510
00:59:36,549 --> 00:59:34,400
so you can find me there not nothing's

1511
00:59:38,309 --> 00:59:36,559
being censored there trying to give out

1512
00:59:40,069 --> 00:59:38,319
great information and we're making that

1513
00:59:42,470 --> 00:59:40,079
kind of i've kind of made it like a

1514
00:59:43,910 --> 00:59:42,480
little hub i got more shows than just

1515
00:59:47,750 --> 00:59:43,920
mine there you can find beyond the

1516
00:59:50,549 --> 00:59:47,760
strange uh you can find shift happens we

1517
00:59:53,109 --> 00:59:50,559
got altered eric at awakening man's new

1518
00:59:54,549 --> 00:59:53,119
show and vinnie uh so we got a lot of

1519
00:59:56,470 --> 00:59:54,559
things going on there kind of made a

1520
00:59:58,150 --> 00:59:56,480
community you can go on there for free

1521
01:00:00,789 --> 00:59:58,160
create a profile

1522
01:00:02,549 --> 01:00:00,799
uh post things there's other posts on

1523
01:00:04,230 --> 01:00:02,559
there so you can find great information

1524
01:00:06,549 --> 01:00:04,240
and posting stuff that i'm finding there

1525
01:00:07,670 --> 01:00:06,559
over at uh ryan's place and stuff like

1526
01:00:10,069 --> 01:00:07,680
that so

1527
01:00:12,150 --> 01:00:10,079
uh you can definitely find me there and

1528
01:00:13,589 --> 01:00:12,160
that reminds me ryan i owe you an

1529
01:00:15,510 --> 01:00:13,599
apology

1530
01:00:16,309 --> 01:00:15,520
i don't know where i picked it up from

1531
01:00:18,630 --> 01:00:16,319
but

1532
01:00:19,990 --> 01:00:18,640
i always thought it was sky wolf

1533
01:00:21,910 --> 01:00:20,000
research

1534
01:00:23,829 --> 01:00:21,920
so some of the stuff that i put out

1535
01:00:25,030 --> 01:00:23,839
there it says sky wolf research so i

1536
01:00:26,789 --> 01:00:25,040
apologize

1537
01:00:29,510 --> 01:00:26,799
i should have known better and realized

1538
01:00:31,349 --> 01:00:29,520
it was space wolf but not skywalk but uh

1539
01:00:33,270 --> 01:00:31,359
yeah i just want to apologize to you hey

1540
01:00:35,510 --> 01:00:33,280
we'll take we'll take two thirds over

1541
01:00:38,230 --> 01:00:35,520
nothing anytime usually we have no

1542
01:00:39,510 --> 01:00:38,240
mention at all so yeah it is space wolf

1543
01:00:41,190 --> 01:00:39,520
research and

1544
01:00:43,430 --> 01:00:41,200
you know it's just you know i think

1545
01:00:45,430 --> 01:00:43,440
there's a lot of people who a lot of

1546
01:00:47,910 --> 01:00:45,440
folks are getting really interested when

1547
01:00:49,030 --> 01:00:47,920
you see this this solid research the

1548
01:00:51,190 --> 01:00:49,040
solid

1549
01:00:53,589 --> 01:00:51,200
evidence taking place before your very

1550
01:00:55,670 --> 01:00:53,599
eyes you you start to wonder what your

1551
01:01:04,630 --> 01:00:55,680
what it is

1552
01:01:05,990 --> 01:01:04,640
because it the possibilities is uh

1553
01:01:08,069 --> 01:01:06,000
they're endless

1554
01:01:09,750 --> 01:01:08,079
there's a lot of implications and i i

1555
01:01:12,390 --> 01:01:09,760
agree with you ma'am that

1556
01:01:14,470 --> 01:01:12,400
on some level it's it's spiritual in my

1557
01:01:16,710 --> 01:01:14,480
uh estimation as well and

1558
01:01:18,950 --> 01:01:16,720
i i think that you are an essential

1559
01:01:20,549 --> 01:01:18,960
asset in uh some of your disclosure of

1560
01:01:23,510 --> 01:01:20,559
that information and i can't thank you

1561
01:01:25,750 --> 01:01:23,520
enough for coming on the podcast today

1562
01:01:27,990 --> 01:01:25,760
hey thank you i i'm honored to be on

1563
01:01:30,309 --> 01:01:28,000
your podcast i'm honored to call you a

1564
01:01:32,390 --> 01:01:30,319
friend now and i'm looking forward to

1565
01:01:34,710 --> 01:01:32,400
any of our journeys and i just want to

1566
01:01:37,349 --> 01:01:34,720
make a quick mention here too

1567
01:01:39,750 --> 01:01:37,359
a lot of the stuff that i captured uh at

1568
01:01:42,150 --> 01:01:39,760
spacewolf research i'm gonna try to get

1569
01:01:44,470 --> 01:01:42,160
it edited this week and get it up onto

1570
01:01:46,309 --> 01:01:44,480
my site um so you'll be able to go see

1571
01:01:48,710 --> 01:01:46,319
some of the footage i actually captured

1572
01:01:50,710 --> 01:01:48,720
at ryan's place it's it's absolutely

1573
01:01:52,549 --> 01:01:50,720
amazing i'm i'm blown away by white i

1574
01:01:54,950 --> 01:01:52,559
got that night

1575
01:01:57,589 --> 01:01:54,960
thank you so much man and until next

1576
01:01:59,029 --> 01:01:57,599
time uh take care

1577
01:02:00,470 --> 01:01:59,039
all right thank you much man i'll be

1578
01:02:04,630 --> 01:02:00,480
talking to you soon

1579
01:02:06,630 --> 01:02:04,640
there he is the man the myth the legend

1580
01:02:09,190 --> 01:02:06,640
jeff renelle he had a lot of good

1581
01:02:12,230 --> 01:02:09,200
answers have we reversed engineered

1582
01:02:15,829 --> 01:02:13,990
some rather not say

1583
01:02:18,230 --> 01:02:15,839
the wilson leaked documents are they

1584
01:02:20,710 --> 01:02:18,240
real some rather not say

1585
01:02:23,510 --> 01:02:20,720
you and i probably know

1586
01:02:25,430 --> 01:02:23,520
more than we should say but yet i'm i'm

1587
01:02:26,789 --> 01:02:25,440
i i think we got a lot of info today

1588
01:02:29,349 --> 01:02:26,799
from jeffernell

1589
01:02:32,870 --> 01:02:29,359
he definitely knows where disclosure is

1590
01:02:36,230 --> 01:02:32,880
at i attribute a lot of his

1591
01:02:37,829 --> 01:02:36,240
uh dimensional theories on real

1592
01:02:40,630 --> 01:02:37,839
world

1593
01:02:42,470 --> 01:02:40,640
research and he's been one to be out

1594
01:02:44,150 --> 01:02:42,480
there looking at petroglyphs looking at

1595
01:02:47,029 --> 01:02:44,160
craft

1596
01:02:50,309 --> 01:02:47,039
videotaping things and going places

1597
01:02:52,069 --> 01:02:50,319
where others do not so until next time

1598
01:02:54,390 --> 01:02:52,079
keep your eyes to the skies feet on the

1599
01:03:06,420 --> 01:02:54,400
ground but don't forget to take a look